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So typical here. We need to stop this cocky board.
As a part time resident I do not know how to proceed. I do not see why we need to move the gym in the first place since anytime I used it it was empty. I have attended many of the Board meetings and found that there was ample space for the amount of people that have attended. Is there going to be a vote on this matter and if so when? Our fees keep going up and to me this type of spending is not going to help bring it down.
Debbie,
This will be my final reply at this time with our dialogue; I believe we both made our points with this discussion.
Kurt
Hi Debra,
Thanks for the post and input. Democracy and its invitation for dialogues is a wonderful concept. I would like to reply with another point of view with some items that you raise with your post.
BTW – it would be great for you to post the Living Dock’s Project on the Blog. I was not aware of it until now, and it would be a nice way to show the good work of our community.
Is it really necessary to air the “perceived” Aquarina problems in a public forum.
Yes, because this public forum is intended for Aquarina residents, and any action by the Board should not be open to any perception outside and beyond of what the Board is obligated by the By-Laws to perform. The idea that a perception exists in itself is an issue.
By public, I mean outside of Aquarina. I am not suggesting that communication within Aquarina be limited. However , by not posting my response you are limiting the POVs to your advantage.
The Blog’s focus was designed for within Aquarina. If by chance it is put out to others outside Aquarina, then it shows the community has a vibrant populace for discussion of community issues. I’ve been here since 1979, and there are no secrets in the South Beaches, Blog or no Blog. The Blog serves as a forum for the community. It is a Blog I created for the community. This email between us will be posted to demonstrate our community dialogue.
Would it not be better to send emails to the residents and to hold a meeting to discuss whatever grievances you may have with the Board and how the community is run rather than publicly air what “may” or “may not” a be problems.
Each Board member was emailed a detailed explanation of concern with the Board’s actions disclosed in the Blog. Not one Board member responded to this elaborate email. Actions by the Board should not be considered “may” or “may not” outcomes. Board actions with the residents’ funds should be clear and follow the letter of the By-Laws. If Board actions can be interpreted to “may” and “may not” cause a consequence, then this is an issue.
Again, the emails and meetings I was referring to included all property owners in Aquarina not just the board members.
My response above addresses the fact that I emailed each of the Board members nearly two months ago concerning the information alert that was posted on the Blog. I, as a questioning resident, sought an explanation to the Board’s actions. As, which has been done before, when the Board was questioned with its actions, there was no explanation.
The Blog was a means to reach the Board with concerns and apprise the residents too of this reach out, since my personal attempt to contact the Board was met with silence. Maybe other residents have the ear of the Board better than myself.
This public shaming is not good for moral, momentum, or most importantly our PROPERTY VALUES. If I were in the market for a home and this came to my attention, I would steer clear of Aquarina. The reputation of our community is being damaged by this blog.
There was no shaming, but there was disclosure to facts and suggestions for possible analysis of what was done. Would not it be a plus for the community that its residents question Board actions that are not clear to the letter of the By-Laws where possible issues are then addressed and corrected rather than having these actions pass without questions and comments? Board Meeting Minutes show the concerns disclosed in the Blog. The proper methodology in a real estate transaction requires that community documents are to be provided to prospective purchases. The Blog disclosures will come out one way or another. With the Blog disclosures the community has a choice on how it will respond, i.e. either to agree, disagree, or be apathetic with the Board’s actions. The Blog elicits a dialogue, which is healthy for a community. This is positive and not negative for anyone considering an Aquarina purchase
Again, I am referring to the platform not the message. Having this blog which is open to the public (not referring to Aquarina owners)., is harmful to our property values. Potential buyers see this internal bickering and discourse and walk away. You being in real estate should be on top of this.
Actually, being in real estate here in the South Beaches and Aquarina for 38 years, I can assure you that any “bickering and discourse” is known to any of the working real estate agents up and down the beach strip whether it’s published or rumored. More importantly, the agent professional advice is to review all the HOA and condominium documents and call the President of the HOA or Condominium for the latest community update.
The irony is that any detriment to Aquarina has not been community discourse but the fees. The Board has been responsible for the fees and that is the concern, which the community has been invited to address with this Blog.
Your public reply and opinions, Mr. Parish, are not helpful in this forum. If I were trying to sell my home at this time, I would not only be extremely angry but seeking legal advice on how to shut this blog down and hold the writer(s) liable for damages.
I cannot speak for Mr. Parish; however, the Blog’s disclosure of Board actions are certain and true, and the questions and suggestions with these actions are inviting discussion rather than ignoring Board actions that certainly suggest scrutiny.
Again, the platform not the message.
This blog makes us appear dysfunctional. The content of this blog contains many ” may haves” and “maybes”. If you were going to post this information, would it have not been better to know the answers to these questions before poking a hornets nest. I see many questions being posed but not answered. This is not a game or a contest, the only winners or losers are the property owners. This public blogging makes us all losers. An email to the board and residents would have been just as informative if the goals were to inform, get answers, hold a meeting and vote.
The Blog does exactly as you state. The Blog informs of Board actions, it poses questions and suggestions to elicit community responses, and if there is a consensus among the residents for an action, then a meeting and vote would be called. This is how our community democracy works.
Again, the public platform. Democracy can exist within our walls. Why invite the world?
The Blog was meant to be an Aquarina platform as stated above; there was no public invitation, but, again, my 40 years here in the South Beaches can attest to the fact that thinking any discussions in Aquarina can be confined to Aquarina is not a realistic expectation.
But it seems there is another agenda(s) at play. This seems like a vendetta without much thought to the repercussions.
I would suggest this blog be taken down immediately and emails be used to communicate with the voting residents of the community. If there are truly issues that need to be discussed and voted upon, we can do so without letting entire web world have access to our “perceived” problems. Follow the advice you would give your children, what you put on the internet does not go away.
There is no agenda or vendetta at play other than disclosing questionable activity by the Board within the confines of the Aquarina community, with the Blog specifically sent to Aquarina residents. If the Blog passes outside our community, then it would be a Blog receiving resident who would put it out to the web world. Regardless, it’s interesting why anyone would see the Blog in a damaging light when it presents actual facts and simply asks for an examination of the
The fact that my response which does not fit your agenda was not published, just reinforces my theory of something else involved here.
See my initial response above. Your “ something else . . .” comment does not exist.
I will find the proper avenue to post my opinion regardless of your “committee ” not allowing opposing views to be posted on the blog.
See my initial reply above. Your “committee” comment is confusing and a committee does not exist
So typical here. We need to stop this cocky board.
As a part time resident I do not know how to proceed. I do not see why we need to move the gym in the first place since anytime I used it it was empty. I have attended many of the Board meetings and found that there was ample space for the amount of people that have attended. Is there going to be a vote on this matter and if so when? Our fees keep going up and to me this type of spending is not going to help bring it down.
Debbie,
This will be my final reply at this time with our dialogue; I believe we both made our points with this discussion.
Kurt
Hi Debra,
Thanks for the post and input. Democracy and its invitation for dialogues is a wonderful concept. I would like to reply with another point of view with some items that you raise with your post.
BTW – it would be great for you to post the Living Dock’s Project on the Blog. I was not aware of it until now, and it would be a nice way to show the good work of our community.
Is it really necessary to air the “perceived” Aquarina problems in a public forum.
Yes, because this public forum is intended for Aquarina residents, and any action by the Board should not be open to any perception outside and beyond of what the Board is obligated by the By-Laws to perform. The idea that a perception exists in itself is an issue.
By public, I mean outside of Aquarina. I am not suggesting that communication within Aquarina be limited. However , by not posting my response you are limiting the POVs to your advantage.
The Blog’s focus was designed for within Aquarina. If by chance it is put out to others outside Aquarina, then it shows the community has a vibrant populace for discussion of community issues. I’ve been here since 1979, and there are no secrets in the South Beaches, Blog or no Blog. The Blog serves as a forum for the community. It is a Blog I created for the community. This email between us will be posted to demonstrate our community dialogue.
Would it not be better to send emails to the residents and to hold a meeting to discuss whatever grievances you may have with the Board and how the community is run rather than publicly air what “may” or “may not” a be problems.
Each Board member was emailed a detailed explanation of concern with the Board’s actions disclosed in the Blog. Not one Board member responded to this elaborate email. Actions by the Board should not be considered “may” or “may not” outcomes. Board actions with the residents’ funds should be clear and follow the letter of the By-Laws. If Board actions can be interpreted to “may” and “may not” cause a consequence, then this is an issue.
Again, the emails and meetings I was referring to included all property owners in Aquarina not just the board members.
My response above addresses the fact that I emailed each of the Board members nearly two months ago concerning the information alert that was posted on the Blog. I, as a questioning resident, sought an explanation to the Board’s actions. As, which has been done before, when the Board was questioned with its actions, there was no explanation.
The Blog was a means to reach the Board with concerns and apprise the residents too of this reach out, since my personal attempt to contact the Board was met with silence. Maybe other residents have the ear of the Board better than myself.
This public shaming is not good for moral, momentum, or most importantly our PROPERTY VALUES. If I were in the market for a home and this came to my attention, I would steer clear of Aquarina. The reputation of our community is being damaged by this blog.
There was no shaming, but there was disclosure to facts and suggestions for possible analysis of what was done. Would not it be a plus for the community that its residents question Board actions that are not clear to the letter of the By-Laws where possible issues are then addressed and corrected rather than having these actions pass without questions and comments? Board Meeting Minutes show the concerns disclosed in the Blog. The proper methodology in a real estate transaction requires that community documents are to be provided to prospective purchases. The Blog disclosures will come out one way or another. With the Blog disclosures the community has a choice on how it will respond, i.e. either to agree, disagree, or be apathetic with the Board’s actions. The Blog elicits a dialogue, which is healthy for a community. This is positive and not negative for anyone considering an Aquarina purchase
Again, I am referring to the platform not the message. Having this blog which is open to the public (not referring to Aquarina owners)., is harmful to our property values. Potential buyers see this internal bickering and discourse and walk away. You being in real estate should be on top of this.
Actually, being in real estate here in the South Beaches and Aquarina for 38 years, I can assure you that any “bickering and discourse” is known to any of the working real estate agents up and down the beach strip whether it’s published or rumored. More importantly, the agent professional advice is to review all the HOA and condominium documents and call the President of the HOA or Condominium for the latest community update.
The irony is that any detriment to Aquarina has not been community discourse but the fees. The Board has been responsible for the fees and that is the concern, which the community has been invited to address with this Blog.
Your public reply and opinions, Mr. Parish, are not helpful in this forum. If I were trying to sell my home at this time, I would not only be extremely angry but seeking legal advice on how to shut this blog down and hold the writer(s) liable for damages.
I cannot speak for Mr. Parish; however, the Blog’s disclosure of Board actions are certain and true, and the questions and suggestions with these actions are inviting discussion rather than ignoring Board actions that certainly suggest scrutiny.
Again, the platform not the message.
This blog makes us appear dysfunctional. The content of this blog contains many ” may haves” and “maybes”. If you were going to post this information, would it have not been better to know the answers to these questions before poking a hornets nest. I see many questions being posed but not answered. This is not a game or a contest, the only winners or losers are the property owners. This public blogging makes us all losers. An email to the board and residents would have been just as informative if the goals were to inform, get answers, hold a meeting and vote.
The Blog does exactly as you state. The Blog informs of Board actions, it poses questions and suggestions to elicit community responses, and if there is a consensus among the residents for an action, then a meeting and vote would be called. This is how our community democracy works.
Again, the public platform. Democracy can exist within our walls. Why invite the world?
The Blog was meant to be an Aquarina platform as stated above; there was no public invitation, but, again, my 40 years here in the South Beaches can attest to the fact that thinking any discussions in Aquarina can be confined to Aquarina is not a realistic expectation.
But it seems there is another agenda(s) at play. This seems like a vendetta without much thought to the repercussions.
I would suggest this blog be taken down immediately and emails be used to communicate with the voting residents of the community. If there are truly issues that need to be discussed and voted upon, we can do so without letting entire web world have access to our “perceived” problems. Follow the advice you would give your children, what you put on the internet does not go away.
There is no agenda or vendetta at play other than disclosing questionable activity by the Board within the confines of the Aquarina community, with the Blog specifically sent to Aquarina residents. If the Blog passes outside our community, then it would be a Blog receiving resident who would put it out to the web world. Regardless, it’s interesting why anyone would see the Blog in a damaging light when it presents actual facts and simply asks for an examination of the
The fact that my response which does not fit your agenda was not published, just reinforces my theory of something else involved here.
See my initial response above. Your “ something else . . .” comment does not exist.
I will find the proper avenue to post my opinion regardless of your “committee ” not allowing opposing views to be posted on the blog.
See my initial reply above. Your “committee” comment is confusing and a committee does not exist
Again, thanks for your input.